ONENESS UNIVERSITY & TEACHINGS

A PRESS MEET & INTERVIEW WITH SHRI BHAGAVAN

Bhagavan, what is the difference between your teachings and the other great teachings?

Sri BHAGAVAN : Basically, for example, other teachers say, “Be aware of your mind. Be a witness…” and all those things. What I am saying is, “It is not possible for man. Most teachings are impractical. If one tries to practice it, he might actually go into certain problems you know. Like, he may become insane. People will become depressed, all kinds of problem will occur. People may commit suicide. Many things will happen like that, because those teachings cannot be practiced. For example, they talk about “Practicing Awareness”. That’s impossible! To practice it. But, my statement is – They are describing their state. They did not practice those things and get that state. They got that state. Because they got that state, it was possible for them to be aware of. Without the state you cannot be aware of. Similarly, when it comes to Ramana Maharishi, my stand is - Ramana Maharishi first had a death experience. Therefore the question “Who am I” made sense to him. But to a person without a death experience it won’t make any sense. So, my stand is – Most teachings won’t work. They give some clarity about life. But then you cannot practice them, because you must be in an altered state of consciousness. Then it is very natural.
For example, it is very natural for a man to be jealous, very natural for a man to be angry. So, if you are talking about not being jealous, not being angry - you must be like a Buddha or a Christ. Buddha and Christ had a different state of consciousness. So, my stand is, I will give you that state. Once I have given you that state, then naturally you have no jealousy, you have no anger, you have no frustration, you have love and bliss. But you can’t try to get love, because the love that we are talking about is unconditional love. However much you try you can’t get there. You are full of jealousy. Through effort you can’t get to non-jealousy. From jealousy you can only go into jealousy, you can’t go into non- jealousy. So whatever you do, you are trapped.
So my whole thing is – this whole thing is not a psychological process. It is a biological process. Now what I do is, I basically work on the human brain to activate this mystical power. So infact I myself don’t have to work directly also. These Dasas who are enlightened, they are in tune with me. Everyday we do this process. I transfer the power to them and they inturn will go and touch. Then, as they touch, the brain undergoes a transformation. So, to me, if you take Ramana Maharishi, his brain underwent that transformation. Therefore Ramana Maharishi is in that state. Jiddu Krishnamurthy is in that state because his brain underwent that process. A Buddha is a Buddha because his brain underwent that process. So, unless your brain also undergoes that process, you cannot be a Buddha, you cannot be a Ramana Maharishi, you cannot be a Jiddu Krishnamurthy. You cannot be anybody.
So that is why I am telling, all teachings are useless. All that they can do is that they can make you into a seeker. You start desiring for it. They are describing Bombay, so begin to seek Bombay. You know there is no way for you to get to Bombay, because you must undergo the same Neuro-Biological transformation that these teachers underwent. What is involved here is Neuro-Biology. So what we give is called the “Oneness Blessing”. the Oneness Blessing is transfer of power to certain parts of the brain. Then certain parts get activated, certain parts get deactivated and you can get into any spiritual states you seek for. It could be a Christian state, it could be an Islamic state, it could be a Buddhist state, or a Taoist state. So each of these states depend on a particular activity of the brain. So I belong to all faiths. I have Christians, I have Muslims in the movement, you know. So whatever state you want I can give it to you. So, my whole teaching is – IT HAS TO BE GIVEN TO YOU.

Question: Is there any difference between the various states you mentioned – the Buddhist, Islam, Christian and the Taoist states?

Sri BHAGAVAN There is a difference. A Buddhist state will be, for example, technically when we speak, you know what is called the Agneya Chakra? If that Chakra is activated you get a Buddhist state. If Visshudhi is activated you get a Islamic state. If Anahatha is activated you get a Christian state. If the Sahasrara is activated you get a Hindu state. So these Chakras are actually located in different parts of the brain. But what is common is, in all those states there is no suffering. There is love. There is joy. But the actual experience is different between each state. So as far as I am concerned, you choose your state and I am prepared to give you that state. I can just give it to you, because I know what technicality is behind it. WITHOUT KNOWING THE TECHNICALITY, SIMPLY GOING ON TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, WHAT IS THE USE? AND THE POOR SEEKER GOES ON LISTENING TO TEACHINGS. BUT THINGS WON’T HAPPEN. HE’LL LOOSE INTEREST IN HIS FAMILY LIFE, HE’LL LOOSE INTEREST IN THE WORLD. ULTIMATELY HE’LL BECOME DEPRESSED. 30 TO 40 YEARS HE WILL BE SEEKING. HE WILL BE DOING SADHANA. HE’LL GET SOME PEACE, SOME JOY, BUT NO PROGRESS. HE BEGINS TO LOOSE INTEREST IN SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGION. HE BECOMES FRUSTRATED. THEN ULTIMATELY HE BECOMES A NUISANCE IN THE FAMILY ITSELF. BEING A FRUSTRATED MAN HE CANNOT ENJOY LIFE. SO HE BECOMES A BURDEN ON OTHERS. ANYBODY WHO IS UNHAPPY, WHO IS FRUSTRATED, WHO IS SUFFERING, HE WILL CAUSE TROUBLE TO OTHERS.
So that is why I do not believe in propagating teachings. My thing is – Come, straight away get the state. After you have got the state, use the teachings to understand the state. Suppose you are in a Buddhist state, the Buddhist teachings will help you know exactly where you are. A Christian teaching will help you get clarity into a Christian state. The teachings come after the state, not before. SO I MAINTAIN, ALL TEACHERS ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. So, if you are a good teacher, give the seeker the state. Give it to him first. After having given it, then give the teaching. You may give a little in the beginning to help him seek. That’s all. Then quickly go on to the state itself. IF YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO GIVE THE STATE, THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK.
Suppose I am talking to you something, I must be in a position to give you that state. If I cannot give you, I should not talk. I should not say – “Oh, so beautiful my state is. You also try, you will get it.” Well, it does not happen that way. Ramana Maharishi did not apply his teachings to himself. He first got the state. It happened to him. Then he began to speak. Jiddu Krishanmurthy, did not apply his teachings. He got the state. Thereafter he began to talk. So, is there any single teacher who has applied his teaching and got there? Nobody. So when you have not applied and got there, how is it you teach others? You are telling, “You practice compassion, you practice love, you over come lust”. Is it so easy to overcome lust? Do this and do that. And the poor fellow keeps trying and trying. And the enlightened person is made into a model. He thinks that’s how you become that. He is trying and he is ruined. That is why I am against the practice of spirituality. So in that way I am very very different from other teachers. They say – Nobody can give it to you. You have to make it on your own. I am telling, “Till dooms day you will not make it on your own. It has to be given to you”. Exactly opposite. That’s where we differ.
Everyday I am producing hundreds of sages. You can come and see. It’ll take 3 to 4 minutes. That’s all. One touch and a seer is produced. You can meet the villagers – Muniamma, Kuppamma, Munuswamy – in unimaginable states. All that happened was just one touch. Then the teachings come out. NOW IF THEY TALK, THEY WILL EXCEL SOME OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS OF ALL TIMES. BECAUSE THEIR STATE IS TALKING. You can see live people, ordinary people, ordinary villagers, not just one or two – hundreds. Fully enlightened, who can do miracles, healing miracles. So, this is a strange village. Even as you walk you will be meeting Ramana Maharishis and Buddhas. But only things is they are not as famous as Ramana Maharishi and Buddha. They are ordinary people. That is the only difference. When you talk you will know. “My goddness what is this!” They have been produced liked that.